Tuesday, June 26, 2018
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[00:15:08] <xcaliber#2123> did he say his last name is Wong?
[04:03:25] <Deyvid> Terra Nova will be starting in just a moment
[04:05:25] <Deyvid> Terra Nova is LIVE
[04:09:30] <Bazag> heya
[04:10:20] <kareemwoods> hello
[04:12:25] <dafydd68> maybe Picard was an Admiral at that point?
[04:14:41] <Deyvid> Hiya kareemwoods
[04:14:49] <Deyvid> Hiya dafydd!
[04:14:52] <Deyvid> Qapla'
[04:15:04] <dafydd68> Qapla'
[04:24:30] <idsgfisdbgfljsdhf> Is this recorded?
[04:24:50] <kareemwoods> no
[04:24:56] <kareemwoods> live
[04:24:57] <idsgfisdbgfljsdhf> Oh, awesome.
[04:27:10] <JustPlainIDS> I'm inclined to agree with Deyvid in that, if the change is well done, or IMO, New Sulu in which is just wasn't a thing (its just how he was, and wasn't a thing in-universe).
[04:28:04] <JustPlainIDS> The Kirk Effect is basically just "they hot human chicks, who are green". If it were trully alien species, like a few in Mass Effect, people would flip out.
[04:29:18] <Deyvid> In the new reboot Trek, Chris Pine's Kirk was in bed with two women who were feline with tails
[04:29:31] <JustPlainIDS> Race swaps in comic-based properties, IMO (as with all things), all ties into the fact that for the vast majority of comics they were written by Nerdy White Guys, FOR Nerdy White Guys.
[04:29:57] <JustPlainIDS> Now? For the last 15-20 years or so, we've been steadily moving past that.
[04:30:22] <JustPlainIDS> <chuckles> Its just me spamming the chat. catch up when/if you have time.
[04:32:07] <JustPlainIDS> Its from Ultimate universe, but yeah, that's where the Valkyrie kiss was.
[04:32:20] <Deyvid> lol IDS ok cool
[04:32:46] <JustPlainIDS> Itys been awhile, but I'm... wordy.
[04:33:52] <JustPlainIDS> I'm kinda surprised you're not mentioning the Trek pansexual character of Dax.
[04:34:36] <JustPlainIDS> Then again, we've kinda wandered far afield of the point that started us to where we are now :)
[04:36:07] <JustPlainIDS> Ultimates was an attempt at "more realistic" and "more modern". I won't go into some of the... problems with it, but it was defintely a more modern take on things.
[04:36:45] <JustPlainIDS> MCU is kind of a softer, lighter version of Ultimates. So Ragnorok Valkyrie being bi/gay? Fits just fine IMO.
[04:39:04] <JustPlainIDS> Being trans myself, a part of me sees someone LBGTQ being added/changed in, and it being clubbing you over the head as a form of progress. Then there's the fan part of me that winces at Epic Shoehorning.
[04:39:31] <JustPlainIDS> Just make it not a thing. Okay, such-and-such is gay. Right. Moving on. Its not the core of their being.
[04:39:54] <JustPlainIDS> <chuckles, shuts up, waits, listens>
[04:41:28] <Durzan20> deflectors and boffs
[04:41:30] <Durzan20> mt
[04:42:53] <dafydd68> We did see Chakotay embracing his native background (even though it was South American rather than North)
[04:43:59] <Deyvid> Chakotay is a whole other can of worms
[04:44:15] <JustPlainIDS> Oh man. No kidding. I'm not even stepping foot in that.
[04:44:20] <Durzan20> yeah every time you see chakotay you should cringe
[04:44:53] <Durzan20> i cant even watch voyager anymore, every time i watch it i find something i hadnt noticed bfore illogical and annoying
[04:46:07] <JustPlainIDS> My friends and I went through (and are still going through) the entire series, in in-unvierse chronological order. Watching how attitudes and society changes through the series was educational for my friends.
[04:46:09] <dafydd68> Jurassic Park? Was the TRex gay?
[04:46:31] <kareemwoods> maybe
[04:46:48] <JustPlainIDS> ... having to explain the Cold War to a 30-year-old... the oldest I have ever felt in my life.
[04:48:26] <JustPlainIDS> <shrugs> I think it was that they were freakin' carpet bombing the market with Star Wars films.
[04:53:33] <JustPlainIDS> Cost to make, advertising, distribution, etc etc etc
[04:55:28] <CommanderDukath> but there's also inflation to consider on any movie
[04:55:35] <dafydd68> everyone else in the world calls it football, since they kick a ball with their foot
[04:55:40] <JustPlainIDS> GOOOOOOOOOOO-*click*-... please go watch 'Solo'...*click*- AAAAAAAAL!
[04:56:10] <kareemwoods> some frogs can change gender
[04:56:35] <JustPlainIDS> And they used frog DNA to fill in the blanks.
[04:56:50] <JustPlainIDS> In fact, I think that's the justification they used.
[04:56:55] <dafydd68> Komodo Dragons can too - which is kind of scary
[04:57:20] <dafydd68> isnt it called parthogenesis?
[04:58:36] <kareemwoods> theyer trying to do what marvel is doing
[04:59:03] <JustPlainIDS> To the Google Machine! <types furiously> Parthenogensis is one creature that can reproduce all on its own. Gender switching is Sequential hermaphroditism.
[04:59:34] <JustPlainIDS> ... Battle Bots?
[05:00:31] <JustPlainIDS> Like the full court press Cartoon Network did/does with Teen Titans Go.
[05:03:27] <JustPlainIDS> <snerks>
[05:03:31] <JustPlainIDS> Seriously?
[05:03:37] <JustPlainIDS> Knife or Death?
[05:04:08] <JustPlainIDS> Does Eddie Izzard host it? "Knife or death!"; "Um... knife?"; "Trick question! Its still death!"
[05:05:22] <JustPlainIDS> A chakram.
[05:06:10] <CommanderDukath> xena used it
[05:06:27] <JustPlainIDS> Yup. Was an Indian throwing weapon.
[05:07:33] <CommanderDukath> i think there is actually someone who made a batleth
[05:08:59] <BLINDBAT> hello fellow trekies
[05:09:17] <JustPlainIDS> Hiya Blindbat.
[05:09:28] <BLINDBAT> how is everyone
[05:09:37] <JustPlainIDS> So far, so good.
[05:09:52] <CommanderDukath> https://www.amazon.com/Traditional-Batleth-BATLETH-TREKKIE-PRODUCTS/dp/B013XSFYRO
[05:10:20] <JustPlainIDS> Offhand, I'd say they would probably avoid doing one, just to keep from getting nailed by litigation. They aren't associated with Paramount, and making money off a Trek item.
[05:10:40] <BLINDBAT> look what commander posted
[05:10:48] <JustPlainIDS> Deyvid, try switching servers on Discord.
[05:12:18] <JustPlainIDS> It looks great. Still craqmped as hell, but it's nice.
[05:12:47] <JustPlainIDS> Morn still won't shut the hell up.
[05:12:58] <kareemwoods> me
[05:13:35] <JustPlainIDS> You are now Kodiak Wolf, Kareem.
[05:13:46] <BLINDBAT> I have all of them done
[05:14:01] <CommanderDukath> when i first got online decades ago, in the old paramount chat for trek, tehre was a chatter who did make a fully functional and sharp bat'leth
[05:14:03] <BLINDBAT> of the sto
[05:14:28] <kareemwoods> i was until 5:30am est lol
[05:16:21] <BLINDBAT> stock up on mountian dew
[05:18:07] <kareemwoods> trying to back off on the soda lol
[05:19:27] <kareemwoods> lol
[05:20:05] <Deyvid> Hiya Coley
[05:20:39] <kareemwoods> why not both
[05:20:55] <JustPlainIDS> Becasue they have limited people, limited time.
[05:21:51] <JustPlainIDS> And I agree. This is Trek Radio. Bandwagoning on Fortnite, Overwatch, or what-have-you seems like a move away. Talk shows like this? I'd watch that.
[05:28:25] <CommanderDukath> could always play runescape
[05:28:48] <Capt.Tsonia> Jolan Tru and Qapla'
[05:31:12] <CommanderDukath> lady tsonia.
[05:31:29] <CommanderDukath> is the T in your name silent?
[05:32:01] <BLINDBAT> the towers were overloaded
[05:32:18] <kareemwoods> good ol scumbag att
[05:33:50] <BLINDBAT> I would be a colorfull person streaming every other word would need to be bleeped out
[05:34:25] <CommanderDukath> what does pubg actually stand for?
[05:34:42] <JustPlainIDS> Player Unknown Battle Grounds.
[05:36:05] <BLINDBAT> thank you deyvid my boyfriend says he thought I was obsessed with sto lol
[05:38:12] <kareemwoods> so thats why they look alike
[05:38:23] <JustPlainIDS> Its a fad. Like Survival Horror was a thing for a year or so.
[05:44:47] <BLINDBAT> trolls will always be trolls
[05:47:05] <CommanderDukath> put a tiny little tree rightt here..
[05:47:13] <dafydd68> Bill Alexander?
[05:48:29] <dafydd68> yeah, the wet on wet method
[05:48:54] <BLINDBAT> yes it is bill alexander
[05:53:21] <kareemwoods> couldnt do oil painting in my high school because of poor ventilation
[05:55:03] <JustPlainIDS> Thrawn is also in Renegades, which is current canon.
[05:55:11] <JustPlainIDS> Sorry, Rebels.
[05:57:35] <JustPlainIDS> And Mara Jade doesn't exist anymore, since the Disney buy-out. At least, not yet. Almost all of the AU stuff is no longer under consideration for SW properties. However, like Thrawn, its all about popularity.
[05:58:19] <kareemwoods> or that feline women
[05:58:26] <JustPlainIDS> Like Boba Fett, the Worst Bounty Hunter Ever (dude got punked by a blind man with a stick) has such good press and fanbase, he's getting his own movie.
[05:59:21] <BLINDBAT> optimus prime meets Kirk lol
[06:02:31] <BLINDBAT> do we know if it is going to be on all access
[06:04:48] <BLINDBAT> what happened
[06:04:54] <Capt.Tsonia> Maj ram LLAP
[06:04:55] <dafydd68> maj ram!
[06:05:16] <Capt.Tsonia> Hope everyone has a great week
[06:05:20] <CommanderDukath> be excellent to each other... wrong universe :P
[06:06:03] <kareemwoods> night
[06:08:26] <Durzan20> heh well where it lists all the fleets in the armada, are there any blank spots?
[06:08:29] <Durzan20> mt