Wednesday, March 27, 2019
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[01:26:21] <Torenn> @resync
[01:54:54] <Hick> o7
[01:54:58] <Hick> brb
[01:55:03] <Suval> o7
[01:55:31] <StargazerJ> o7
[01:58:17] <species8471> Hickpla'!
[01:58:33] <species8471> and this is definitely Hick's intro now...
[02:07:33] <Parttimechampion> Helloooooooooo.
[02:07:37] <species8471> PTC!
[02:09:46] <BLIND> what is goining on me having a sinus infection
[02:10:14] <StargazerJ> Blocked Bat?
[02:14:48] <BLIND> yes how about a blocked bitchy bat
[02:14:51] *Suval bows
[02:15:04] <StargazerJ> BBB
[02:15:27] <StargazerJ> o/
[02:15:34] <BLIND> lol forget the better buisness buerw (I am speaking typo tonight)
[02:16:03] <species8471> typos are allowed :)
[02:16:27] <StargazerJ> I have so many I should really instal Grammerly
[02:17:54] <BLIND> they got it from you lol
[02:18:05] <species8471> its the green bloodwine
[02:18:45] <StargazerJ> Or the red Rom ale
[02:19:00] <BLIND> good I am so happy
[02:19:19] <Parttimechampion> Hi Blind. :)
[02:19:24] <species8471> cheers, glad he's doing better
[02:20:15] <BLIND> hello ptc
[02:21:08] <StargazerJ> Oh good, those are always the best:)
[02:32:59] <BLIND> they are called proffreaders and they are just like the dinosaurs
[02:33:27] <BLIND> Extinct
[02:35:47] *BLIND puts super glue into parttimechampion's seat
[02:36:00] <Parttimechampion> Not again.
[02:37:29] <StargazerJ> That could be a good auto pilot. One that flies by the seat of your pants:)
[02:38:29] <StargazerJ> Of course you would need a new set
[02:40:14] <species8471> Surely you cant be serious?
[02:40:23] <species8471> and don't call me Shirley
[02:40:36] <StargazerJ> I am serious and don't call Surely
[02:40:52] <BLIND> lol you took the words out of my mouth species8471
[02:41:03] <Suval> hehe
[02:41:23] <StargazerJ> Cigarette?
[02:41:50] *Parttimechampion raises glass
[02:42:27] <StargazerJ> \o/
[02:42:48] <StargazerJ> I really should have seen Captain Marvel
[02:43:20] <Parttimechampion> I love Djawadi's work.
[02:43:42] <species8471> tune
[02:43:51] <StargazerJ> and James Gunn rehired for GOTG 3 :)
[03:02:27] <Durzan20> dont know much about it, seems moronic unless there is actually a plan to it, and not just another orange ego trip
[03:02:57] <Durzan20> only points i know of for going to the moon are to build a base for further exploration in the solar system and/or mining ice
[03:03:15] <Durzan20> there is no point to just picking up more rocks really
[03:11:29] <BLIND> nurf hurder
[03:12:16] <BLIND> ptc is bad penny he keeps turning up
[03:13:00] <Durzan20> yes if they are actually working on that stuff, good
[03:13:21] <Durzan20> mars is less important than the asteroid belt probably
[03:13:31] <Durzan20> in the short run anyway
[03:13:46] <Durzan20> lol principles and values
[03:14:54] <Durzan20> lol
[03:14:56] <BLIND> bad one hick
[03:15:04] <Durzan20> at this point we could probably send a drone for rock samples
[03:15:23] <BLIND> wait are we going to build a wall to keep marsians out
[03:15:47] <Durzan20> we need to build a wall to keep the humans in.. :)
[03:15:52] <StargazerJ> Only if you can get them to pay for it
[03:16:28] <Durzan20> future in space better be positive, since we are trying very hard to make this place uninhabitable
[03:17:11] <Durzan20> "It's our only hope!" :)
[03:17:14] <BLIND> well Mitch McConnell we are going buid a wall to WALL YOU IN
[03:18:05] <Parttimechampion> I'd pitch in for THAT wall.
[03:18:17] <BLIND> the fact we need moon rocks to build a wall
[03:18:32] <BLIND> Mitch is from my state
[03:18:42] <BLIND> look at him he looks like odo
[03:18:47] <Durzan20> depends on the right wing conservative
[03:18:53] <StargazerJ> My condolences BB
[03:18:58] <BLIND> ty
[03:19:14] <Durzan20> walling mitch mcconnel would be good, because hes crafty and smart, and odds are, someone less crafty and smart will replace him
[03:19:48] <BLIND> this is mitch https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/HWGCLIMXNag61yXviDSKTA--~C/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2ZpPWZpdDtoPTE4MDtxPTgwO3c9MTM4/https://s.yimg.com/zb/imgv1/08e0d20b-1b89-37f9-bc65-a1bbb464b4f4/t_500x300
[03:20:27] <BLIND> now odo http://www.treknews.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/odo-changeling1.jpg
[03:20:33] <BLIND> dont they look the same
[03:20:37] <Durzan20> but someone like say, devin nunes, always want him free to speak his mind
[03:22:25] <atomos> OPPRESS EM ALL!!!
[03:23:32] *Parttimechampion blames Hick for all evils of society
[03:24:04] <BLIND> no we blame bazag he shoot everyone
[03:26:43] <BLIND> A SOAPBOX WARNING HAD BEEN DECLARED
[03:27:28] <StargazerJ> He's not dead is he?
[03:27:36] <Durzan20> spectrum ahs f'd up my streaming/on demand here so im now behind 3 episodes on orville.. very annoying
[03:36:08] <BLIND> 0
[03:37:27] <BLIND> hick know why I actitivated the soapbox warning system
[03:38:21] <BLIND> say my name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:38:27] <Parttimechampion> So, hopefully marvel will do a full rotation of characters instead of rebooting.
[03:38:43] <Durzan20> Heisenburg!
[03:41:22] <Parttimechampion> Speaking of the House of Mouse, I heard Murdoch didn't secure the Simpsons as tightly as he'd have liked.
[03:45:26] <StargazerJ> The Orvile is ace
[03:46:16] <Parttimechampion> Hearing TWD wasn't going to end this season killed most of my interest in the series.
[03:46:28] <StargazerJ> Fox cancel anything decent to make way for more shite
[03:47:46] <Parttimechampion> Considering Hulu is defacto owned by Disney, it's very likely.
[03:48:30] <Durzan20> hope not hulu, not too impressed with hulu's lineup
[03:48:31] <StargazerJ> I'm growing to like Discovery in season 2 now but I still think The Orvile is the real new Star Trek
[03:48:51] <Parttimechampion> Wait, is Disco's season 2 already on air=
[03:48:53] <Parttimechampion> ?
[03:49:06] <StargazerJ> Netflix in UK
[03:49:24] <StargazerJ> It feels much more trek
[03:51:40] <BLIND> THEY KNEW THIS WAS COMING UP SO WHO IS THE KNUCLE-HEAD WHO DID NOT CHECK TO SEE THE HAD THE RIGHT SIZE
[03:51:53] <BLIND> I told you I was going on the soapbox
[03:54:31] <StargazerJ> I hear the new space suits are out of this world
[03:55:02] <BLIND> what if those two were the only ones that could do the task
[03:56:35] <BLIND> I was there when it blew up
[03:57:28] <StargazerJ> Such a tragedy and completely avoidable
[03:57:53] <BLIND> good show hick
[03:58:04] <Parttimechampion> Thanks for the show, Hick. Hi Ato!
[03:58:06] <Suval> Great show boss!
[03:58:20] <Durzan20> lol hick, i ask that question about half the stories you share :)
[03:58:26] <StargazerJ> Thx Hick, hello Ato
[03:58:32] <atomos> Noooooo! Oh wait, ya up next
[04:00:03] <BLIND> we had news time now it is party time
[04:00:26] *BLIND puts the soapbox in the corner for Risa
[04:00:45] <Durzan20> *puff* *puff* *pass*
[04:01:00] <StargazerJ> **takes:)
[04:01:20] <atomos> Hey dont bogart dat shit!
[04:01:55] <StargazerJ> ** passes to Ato
[04:06:22] <StargazerJ> I thought you just had to be over 18 not mature **sulks**
[04:10:05] <StargazerJ> I pass on one:)
[04:11:29] <StargazerJ> Super
[04:11:58] <Parttimechampion> Remind me, who did the Superman movies?
[04:12:07] <StargazerJ> Reeve
[04:12:16] <Parttimechampion> It would be hilarious that it had been Fox and now Superman's theme belonged to Disney.
[04:12:24] <Hick> Is this a dig at truth, justice, and the American way? lol
[04:12:46] <Parttimechampion> If it is, all I can say is Too Soon.
[04:12:52] <StargazerJ> They should have the dark march
[04:13:26] <StargazerJ> He did most of the good ones
[04:15:07] <StargazerJ> Is it weird that I thought I would grow into Superman when I was little?
[04:15:41] <Hick> this song give me nothing but good and warm feelings.
[04:15:41] <Capt.Tsonia> Not at all
[04:15:43] <Hick> love it
[04:15:51] <Capt.Tsonia> Jolan Tru and Qapla'
[04:16:09] <StargazerJ> I figured I'd be flying by 17 or so...much dissapointment
[04:16:28] <Parttimechampion> Ok no, seemingly it was Warner who did the old movies.
[04:17:28] <Capt.Tsonia> I dreamed of joining Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do school...but that didn't work out :-(
[04:17:43] <Capt.Tsonia> Hi Ato
[04:18:01] <Hick> RAIS 'EM YOU FILTHY HEATHENS
[04:18:20] <StargazerJ> You still can, it's more of a philosophy really. Use any technique that works
[04:20:52] <Capt.Tsonia> I have some books of his teachings. Too late to learn martial arts for me lol
[04:21:31] <Capt.Tsonia> I'm more suited to Qigong and Tai Chi
[04:22:02] <StargazerJ> I was very into some forms some time ago. Read one of his books and it did improve my front kick
[04:22:29] <Capt.Tsonia> that's good
[04:22:43] <StargazerJ> Yes I did Yang style Tai Chi and Chigong
[04:23:13] <StargazerJ> Apparently what they call chi in yoga is called prana
[04:23:27] <Capt.Tsonia> I think one of the most important things I learned was to breathe right lol
[04:23:45] <Capt.Tsonia> lol it sure does Ato
[04:24:16] <Capt.Tsonia> I cannot wax my car without thinking of Mr. Miyagi san
[04:24:33] <StargazerJ> With internal MAs like Tai Chi you tend to get better with age as it's more gentle on the body so it doesn't matter so much about aging. Mostly done just for excercise these days though
[04:24:51] <Capt.Tsonia> very true
[04:25:15] <BLIND> TUNE!!!
[04:25:22] <Capt.Tsonia> I can't believe I'm this old lol I feel so young inside
[04:25:29] <Capt.Tsonia> tune
[04:25:32] <BLIND> I almost played this for my sci fi show
[04:25:51] <Durzan20> i watched the ballad of buster skruggs the other night, its pretty good, not that i was surprised
[04:26:15] <Capt.Tsonia> i'm in the mood for a good western
[04:26:36] <Durzan20> its on netflix. coen brothers. 6 western short stories
[04:26:51] <StargazerJ> I might check that out
[04:26:58] <Capt.Tsonia> ohhh hmm
[04:27:15] <StargazerJ> After Batman Ninja that I added lol
[04:27:53] <Parttimechampion> After Batman Ninja every mother movie looks better. :P
[04:27:56] <Capt.Tsonia> I just finished watching all of The Umbrella Academy...I liked it
[04:28:01] <Parttimechampion> Every OTHER movie, even.
[04:28:16] <StargazerJ> I watched the first 2 or 3 but didn't really take to it
[04:29:01] <StargazerJ> I was pondering that yes
[04:29:18] <StargazerJ> Also the first episode of that 3 Robots is ace
[04:29:34] <Capt.Tsonia> I was going to ck that out
[04:29:40] <StargazerJ> It's like Robot Wars meets biogenics
[04:30:17] <StargazerJ> I was so dissapointed when the next episode was something else
[04:30:23] <Durzan20> kirlian frequency?
[04:30:51] <StargazerJ> I've to watch that, I'm talking 3 Robots (I think)
[04:31:42] <StargazerJ> Love, Death and Robots
[04:32:22] <Durzan20> both of those look possibly quite interesting ty both
[04:33:14] <StargazerJ> I'm assuming it's related to kirlian photography?
[04:33:24] <Durzan20> everything ive ever browsed on netflix cartoon wise looked like some crap anime so far, but i had not noticed either of those
[04:34:22] <StargazerJ> Bleach is great, except the filler episodes
[04:35:21] <StargazerJ> I think you only get the first 3 seasons though
[04:36:20] <Durzan20> this is my favorite weed song ever, and its a pretty good little history lesson to boot
[04:36:24] <Durzan20> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9WTUdMrn-k
[04:36:35] <Hick> WILKOMMEN
[04:36:38] <Hick> BIENVENUE
[04:36:42] <StargazerJ> I never really listened to it before
[04:36:42] <BLIND> omg hick is flying another starship ------get to the escape pods now
[04:37:16] <StargazerJ> Play it again Mr Tamborine man
[04:38:01] <StargazerJ> The Star Trek music does that for me
[04:39:19] <BLIND> it is not green acres it is PROZAC acres
[04:39:33] <Durzan20> ick
[04:40:23] <StargazerJ> Actually I'm going to need you to work Sunday too...
[04:40:45] <StargazerJ> yeaaaah
[04:41:21] <BLIND> well at least the kid had is pants on his head and not on the dog
[04:43:24] <Capt.Tsonia> waves
[04:43:57] <BLIND> hick turns in to a bear and hybernates
[04:44:06] <BLIND> :D
[04:44:21] <grismunk#0565> Hick turns into a cocktail olive
[04:44:31] <BLIND> now I am blushing
[04:45:02] <Parttimechampion> Good to be seen!
[04:45:06] <StargazerJ> **bows**
[04:46:12] <Capt.Tsonia> Me too
[04:48:59] <StargazerJ> Eminently lovable Mr Miyagi:)
[04:49:34] <Durzan20> LoL you know that clip you play where the guy says "sometimes my wife forgets she is not a space alien".. my inner monologue has been using that guys voice to say
[04:49:35] <Parttimechampion> This song will live on in our memories... and Gaijin Goomba's videos.
[04:49:48] <Durzan20> "sometimes our president forgets he is NOT a soviet agent"
[04:50:00] <StargazerJ> lol
[04:50:06] <Hick> pumpkin time... g'nite all! :)
[04:50:21] <Durzan20> wave hick
[04:51:00] <StargazerJ> Usefull idoit I beleive was the classification
[04:51:12] <StargazerJ> nn Hick
[04:51:20] <Capt.Tsonia> G'nite Hick
[04:52:38] <Capt.Tsonia> lol
[04:52:39] <BLIND> TUNE TUNE Y+TUNE!!!!
[04:52:42] <StargazerJ> We are newly weds on our way to Earth Capitol
[04:52:46] <Durzan20> hehe
[04:53:00] <BLIND> god i love queen
[04:53:10] <Capt.Tsonia> mega tune
[04:53:16] <StargazerJ> I must watch the film
[04:54:05] <BLIND> atomos I sene you a discord messag
[04:54:15] <Capt.Tsonia> Bohemian Rhapsody?
[04:54:23] <StargazerJ> Yeah
[04:54:24] <Capt.Tsonia> Or Highlander lol
[04:54:28] <StargazerJ> lol
[04:54:41] <Capt.Tsonia> both films are amazing :-)
[04:54:44] <Parttimechampion> Eventually someone will have to tell Bazag we're not highlanders.
[04:55:11] <StargazerJ> My pal Colin Macleod was the first of us to get married and have a boy. He chickenned out of calling him Connor
[04:55:13] <Capt.Tsonia> he is always stabbing me with his dirk lol
[04:55:16] <BLIND> I love anything queen
[04:55:28] <grismunk#0565> I put this in our patrol mix once. I was banned from the MP3 player after that
[04:55:31] <Capt.Tsonia> lol Star
[04:55:33] <StargazerJ> Actually I am a highlander:)
[04:55:50] <BLIND> I close my eyes and see freddy with that broken mic stand
[04:56:29] <Capt.Tsonia> yep
[04:56:54] <StargazerJ> Well it's easier to spell than squian due, sorry I'm Scotish and still can't get it right
[04:57:28] <StargazerJ> I even worked in kilt shop
[04:57:39] <Capt.Tsonia> lol
[04:58:04] <StargazerJ> I'm sure I called one on my klingon ships that but I had to google it
[04:58:38] <StargazerJ> AND I've seen Nessie:)
[04:58:49] <Capt.Tsonia> really? that's cool
[04:59:05] <StargazerJ> Took 3 photos and was quite famous for 15 mins in August 94 lol
[04:59:19] <Capt.Tsonia> I'm still looking for Sasquatch(Bigfoot) since I live in his country(Pacific Northwest)
[04:59:45] <StargazerJ> I think Jeremy Wade from River Monsters has nailed it though, it's the Greenland Shark
[05:00:10] <Capt.Tsonia> aha...do you agree?
[05:00:23] <StargazerJ> Which has flacid dorsal fins that wouldn't give it away as a fish
[05:00:25] <Capt.Tsonia> do they get that big?
[05:00:53] <StargazerJ> 22 foot plus apparently which is the only suggestion that would fit what we saw (Dad an me)
[05:01:11] <Capt.Tsonia> how exciting to have a plausible explanation
[05:01:28] <Capt.Tsonia> we are still looking for one for Bigfoot
[05:01:53] <StargazerJ> Like I've always said to people it sounds perfectly plausable if you change monster to creature
[05:02:09] <StargazerJ> What was a great white shark until it had a name?
[05:02:25] <Capt.Tsonia> I have to say moving here has opened my eyes to the vastness of the Oregon forests and pretty remote places here
[05:03:20] <StargazerJ> I would not automatically dismiss anyone who suggests something like bigfoot. Consider gorrilas were only discovered in the last 100 years
[05:03:36] <Capt.Tsonia> I agree...
[05:03:59] <Durzan20> forest mushrooms ftw
[05:04:07] <StargazerJ> I'm sure there's more waiting in the oceans to wow us too
[05:04:13] <Capt.Tsonia> though I tend to lean towards the theory it is a large recluse in a bear suit we have so many bears here
[05:04:30] <Capt.Tsonia> Oh most definitely in the oceans
[05:05:00] <StargazerJ> I'm really looking forward to the Europa missions:)
[05:05:37] <Capt.Tsonia> Me too...it ignites my imagination pondering what might be in that alien ocean
[05:06:14] <Capt.Tsonia> great set Ato
[05:06:23] <StargazerJ> One thing I'm sure we will find in alien oceans is sharks. Considering nature found a perfect design that hasn't changed in 400 or 800 (I forget) million years
[05:06:51] <StargazerJ> Convergent evolution is bound to repeat the success
[05:07:10] <Capt.Tsonia> yep some alien version of our sharks
[05:07:33] <Capt.Tsonia> must we Ato? be mature?
[05:07:52] <Capt.Tsonia> hehe
[05:08:26] <StargazerJ> Our distant descendants will probably get to see dinosaurs in far away worlds. If we don't self destruct that is
[05:09:08] <Durzan20> or maybe they will be the dinosaurs on distant worlds
[05:09:13] <Capt.Tsonia> especially if they can utilize that new theory of the halo drive and black holes it is just getting to the black holes that is a problem lol
[05:09:24] <grismunk#0565> in an infinite number of realities there exists at least one where all sharks are known simply as 'Carl'.
[05:09:39] <StargazerJ> No offense to my friend across the pond but your idoit in chief makes that much more likely lol
[05:10:09] <Capt.Tsonia> if the dinos didn't get wiped out they might have become the most intelligent species on this planet who knows
[05:10:20] <StargazerJ> *friends
[05:10:24] <Durzan20> the grifter in chief
[05:10:37] <Capt.Tsonia> well we have birds and some are pretty smart as a side note
[05:10:48] <StargazerJ> Jurassic Prick
[05:10:57] *Parttimechampion Steins;Gates Tsonia away
[05:11:33] <StargazerJ> I would not be surprised if orcas turned out to be smarter than us
[05:11:42] <StargazerJ> They just don't have thumbs
[05:12:10] <grismunk#0565> That will only hold them back for so long,
[05:12:13] <Capt.Tsonia> I think dolphins are for sure they know how to enjoy themselves
[05:12:48] <Capt.Tsonia> good point
[05:12:59] <StargazerJ> I watched the film Lucy a few nights back and it was stated that dolphins use 20% of there brains. Haven't confirmed that though
[05:13:07] <Durzan20> dolfins are also into gang rape :)
[05:13:43] <Parttimechampion> Dolphins are the oceans' humans. And by that I mean they're the biggest assholes.
[05:13:54] <Capt.Tsonia> they have names for each other...we just can't figure out how to talk to them yet we need a universal translator
[05:14:38] <grismunk#0565> Pretty sure to them we're all Carl
[05:14:40] <Capt.Tsonia> Or Breakthrough series it is really good
[05:14:41] <StargazerJ> It has been shown that they use language like us though given the frequency of different clicks and noises
[05:15:24] <StargazerJ> I'm sure eventually we will have some form of comunication with them
[05:15:37] <Capt.Tsonia> and they don't have to work hard for 3/4's of their lives then retire in old age to enjoy being too old to enjoy life
[05:15:58] <Capt.Tsonia> lol I hope so Star
[05:16:17] <StargazerJ> You wonder if thumbs were such a great idea
[05:16:38] <Capt.Tsonia> lol yeah...up with flippers
[05:18:18] <StargazerJ> I thought he was going to say, "No colusion" there for a moment but he used too many big words
[05:18:53] <Capt.Tsonia> just saying which species has the best life? humans or dolphins? (discounting us hurting them and they aren't stupid enough to pollute the oceans
[05:19:39] <StargazerJ> Life would be simpler
[05:19:43] <Capt.Tsonia> no direct collusion...just a lot of indictments for his associates right
[05:20:34] <Capt.Tsonia> lol they were grateful little beasties till the end eh?
[05:20:59] <Capt.Tsonia> tune
[05:21:16] <Durzan20> sounded to me like Bill was exagerating it a bit more than Bob from what little we know. And we all know how trustworthy Bill is, and totally not insane with his president = king legal theories
[05:21:49] <Capt.Tsonia> I know right?
[05:22:04] <StargazerJ> Very stable genius
[05:22:33] <grismunk#0565> Precious...bodily...fluids
[05:23:45] <Capt.Tsonia> our con man in chief worries a lot of people...can't wait for next years elections
[05:24:01] <grismunk#0565> Purity of Essence = Peace on Earth
[05:24:20] <StargazerJ> I really feel for the majority of Americans who didn't want him as president
[05:25:03] <Capt.Tsonia> thanks...we are hoping to reform the electoral college so our pres is elected by popular vote from now on...sigh
[05:25:11] <StargazerJ> I'm ashamed to think he has Scottish roots
[05:25:33] <StargazerJ> 3 million more is a majority
[05:25:35] <Durzan20> lol yeah that wont happen anytime soon
[05:25:54] <Capt.Tsonia> hey half of America has Scotch Irish roots so don't feel bad
[05:25:54] <Durzan20> about as likely as repealing the 2nd amendment
[05:26:21] <Capt.Tsonia> hope springs eternal...
[05:26:38] <Durzan20> ERA probably has a better chance
[05:27:45] <Capt.Tsonia> if he somehow in this insane world gets elected again we may move to my husbands homeland of Wales...but I hope it doesn't come to that I love my country
[05:28:22] <StargazerJ> Things are much harder to spell there too
[05:28:24] <Durzan20> wales may not be better anyway :)
[05:28:44] <Capt.Tsonia> lol yeah if they don't figure out that Brexit problem
[05:29:07] <StargazerJ> By the time Brexash is over we may all be seperate nations again
[05:29:29] <Capt.Tsonia> would that be a bad thing?
[05:29:41] <Parttimechampion> Alas, the only scenario I can think of in which 45 doesn't would would be even worse... president Pence.
[05:29:44] <Durzan20> lol Putin might die from laughing so hard
[05:30:14] <StargazerJ> The reason I didn't vote for an independant Scotland is I didn't want our armed forces to be broken up considering the way Putin is acting
[05:30:14] <Durzan20> pence would be worse in some ways, but perhaps not all
[05:30:56] <Capt.Tsonia> yes a defense pact would be essential for Wales too
[05:31:08] <Parttimechampion> He scares me more... he's just as full of hatred, except he'd be actually competent at enacting the devil's agenda.
[05:31:17] <StargazerJ> Thing is Trump is one man, it's the supporters that really puzzle me
[05:31:17] <Durzan20> if the species wants to survive, it needs to work togethor, not break apart, with global warming looming
[05:31:35] <Capt.Tsonia> good point PTC
[05:32:15] <Durzan20> true. he would be more competent, but, he might not sell out policy to foreign nations for hundreds of millions
[05:32:20] <Capt.Tsonia> I was hoping the internet would make the world smaller so we could all meet and get to know one another as the same species
[05:32:23] <StargazerJ> With people like Bernie and AOC I have hope for you though
[05:33:23] <Parttimechampion> That's what the internet did, at least for the right people.
[05:33:29] <Durzan20> it does for the majority
[05:33:45] <Capt.Tsonia> I worked for Bernie in 2016 and will again, his platform is closer to the democratic views now then they were then...
[05:34:01] <StargazerJ> Iirc it was Bruce Lee who said he was a human being first. I always think of myself as a citizen of Earth first and formost before British or Scotish etc
[05:34:24] <Parttimechampion> Me too.
[05:34:46] <Capt.Tsonia> as long as the trolls don't get us offending each other I do believe we can have intelligent meaningful discussions like this has been..enjoying it
[05:34:52] <Durzan20> bernies not my first choice but meh, any of them would be an upgrade
[05:35:08] <StargazerJ> That's great Capt. Tsonia. Do you watch TYT?
[05:36:13] <Capt.Tsonia> No not sure what that is
[05:36:32] <StargazerJ> I've watched all the major news channels from time to time but The Young Turks is the most honest reporting I've seen
[05:36:49] <Capt.Tsonia> I will ck it out then
[05:37:11] <StargazerJ> They are honest about their progressive viewpoint and they tell you things that Fox and CNN wont
[05:37:16] <Durzan20> watched them once or twice, they got on my nerves some but i dont really remember why
[05:37:37] <Durzan20> this is why we watch MSNBC generally heh
[05:37:44] <Durzan20> fox and cnn are basicly useless
[05:37:52] <Capt.Tsonia> agreed
[05:38:17] <StargazerJ> It's mostly Cenk and Ana I watch, Jimmy Dore can be a bit tinfoil hat at times
[05:38:21] <Capt.Tsonia> I watch a lot less news than I use to, it is a bit depressing at the moment
[05:38:40] <Parttimechampion> Just a bit?
[05:38:49] <Capt.Tsonia> lol well....
[05:38:52] <Durzan20> ive been addicted to rachel maddow since the rise of the orange
[05:39:11] <StargazerJ> I always check them out when something important happens just to get information that the corporate channels don't want you to know
[05:39:20] <Parttimechampion> I've been avoiding most news for a year now...
[05:40:03] <StargazerJ> Yes I like watching Rachel too
[05:40:08] <Capt.Tsonia> we love you Atomos
[05:40:42] <Durzan20> i took 2-3 months off last summerish, but i cracked and returned to my natural addicted state
[05:40:55] <Capt.Tsonia> rofl
[05:41:14] <StargazerJ> The most important thing I think is to have more than one source
[05:41:55] <StargazerJ> I even watch Fox from time to time just for a different viewpoint, though it is painfull
[05:42:01] <Durzan20> yeah i browse NYT/washingtonpost/dailybeast/buzzfeed often
[05:42:22] <Capt.Tsonia> it is easy to get addicted to news...it even intrudes every houg when I'm listening to Coast Radio
[05:42:51] <Capt.Tsonia> those are good sources for info Durz
[05:43:06] <Capt.Tsonia> and the BBC lol
[05:43:08] <StargazerJ> I'll admit Ato it is kinda amazing that we have 12 years and we are not really talking about it
[05:43:57] <Capt.Tsonia> because we are all scared to death or should be
[05:44:22] <StargazerJ> I hardly ever watch BBC now, just propaganda for the government mostly now
[05:44:34] <Durzan20> i used to listen to BBC world service quite a bit, but i havent really since the rise of the orange, either. addiction switched gears
[05:45:26] <StargazerJ> I don't trust the BBC any more than any of the big news channels they all have an agenga
[05:45:35] <StargazerJ> *agenda
[05:45:45] <Capt.Tsonia> that rings true
[05:45:56] <Durzan20> historically, ive been quite in favor of the BBC's agenda
[05:46:10] <Durzan20> at least from the world news part
[05:46:12] <Capt.Tsonia> I do a lot of fact checking these days
[05:46:42] <StargazerJ> There was a report I checked out on the White Helmets to do with Channel 4 News.
[05:46:46] <Durzan20> but right now, what is BBC propaganda? how can they have propaganda when the government doesnt even know what the fuck its doing? :)
[05:47:21] <StargazerJ> Long story short I think there was indeed a young girl who was used 3 times in 3 different locations as propaganda
[05:48:23] <Capt.Tsonia> that is possible...I swear I see the same poor little refuge boy's face on many FB feeds about the middle east...it disturbs me
[05:48:31] <StargazerJ> It's what the BBC will not report on. Such as a massive march that happened because they didn't want attention drawn to the people
[05:48:52] <Durzan20> what march?
[05:49:15] <Capt.Tsonia> yep
[05:49:35] <StargazerJ> It was some march to do with protesting the rise of Islam or something connected with the right but it was totaly peacefull
[05:50:12] <Durzan20> social media is a pit of delinquency and mob think, at best :) copy/paste will put a lot of the same refugee around, yes
[05:50:36] <Durzan20> well perhaps they wanted to avoid a charlottesville
[05:51:02] <grismunk#0565> We should maybe revisit the viability of farsical aquatic ceremonies.
[05:51:15] <StargazerJ> Also, although I don't agree with his viewpoint Tommy Lee has given interviews with independant reporters and it's worrying the way he was treated by the government and the BBC
[05:51:48] <StargazerJ> They tried to kill him off in prison
[05:52:28] <Capt.Tsonia> omg really? that is scary...
[05:52:30] <Durzan20> the drummer for motley crue? or some other tommy lee?
[05:52:47] <Parttimechampion> WIZARD PRISON!
[05:53:05] <StargazerJ> And apparently MI5 wanted him to unite the far right if there was a national imergency
[05:53:23] <StargazerJ> The creator (I think) of the English Defence League
[05:54:25] <Durzan20> were these the same guys assaassinating member of parliament?
[05:54:30] <StargazerJ> The BBC would not give him an interview and the one I saw rang true
[05:54:45] <Parttimechampion> I'm all for fascical aquatic ceremonies.
[05:54:49] <StargazerJ> I have not heard of that
[05:55:02] <Capt.Tsonia> As much as I have thoroughly enjoyed our worldly discussions tonight fellow trekies I must sign off now.
[05:55:20] <Capt.Tsonia> Peace and long life to you all...thanks Ato loved the show
[05:55:21] <StargazerJ> Like I say I disagree with his viewpoint but his voice has a right to be heard as well
[05:55:41] <StargazerJ> nn Tsonia, loved the chat
[05:56:05] <Capt.Tsonia> See you all Sunday :-)
[05:56:09] <Parttimechampion> nn Tsonia.
[05:57:14] <grismunk#0565> Women stampeded and cattle raped
[05:58:23] <grismunk#0565> Was that Tommy Robinson you were talking about earlier?
[05:58:38] <StargazerJ> Oh my bad yeah probably lol
[05:59:08] <Durzan20> there was a labour mp? killed a couple of years ago by some right winger, and it seems like they rounded up some other right wingers for terroristic threats around the same time
[05:59:25] <grismunk#0565> He's a goon. but he's a goon getting railroaded
[06:00:18] <StargazerJ> Like I say I totally dissagree with just about everything he says but I don't think he should be falsely imprisoned and attempted to be killed off
[06:02:39] <StargazerJ> Apparently one of the guards warned him that it was going to happen and got him to be placed in solitary to save hime
[06:03:43] <Parttimechampion> We need a re-launch of this movie, and the graphic novel.
[06:03:49] <Parttimechampion> Now it's more relevant than ever.
[06:03:55] <StargazerJ> What is this?
[06:04:08] <grismunk#0565> 1812 Overture
[06:04:17] <Parttimechampion> Indeed.
[06:04:24] <grismunk#0565> Was used in V for Vendetta
[06:04:31] <Parttimechampion> At the very ending.
[06:04:54] <StargazerJ> hmm yeah
[06:06:31] <grismunk#0565> The National Guard in my state has a trained detail that performs with an orchestra every 4th of July.
[06:06:57] <grismunk#0565> They do the cannon part.
[06:07:30] <StargazerJ> Maybe after the alien invasion it can be a world holiday:)
[06:10:25] <StargazerJ> Did I hear the voice of Chris Griffin in there?
[06:11:04] <StargazerJ> I really am late to the Shaggadelic party lol
[06:11:47] <grismunk#0565> Seth Green? All makes sense now.
[06:12:00] <StargazerJ> I thought that was his name
[06:13:48] <grismunk#0565> Anyway if someone like Tommy Robinson winds up in general population in prison, you can be sure that was deliberate.
[06:14:59] <grismunk#0565> That being said, he is a very clever goon and they're right to be afraid of him.
[06:15:52] <StargazerJ> If he was truthfull in his interview it's really worrying the way the state can victimize an individual though
[06:16:41] <Durzan20> was he convicted of something?
[06:17:31] <StargazerJ> I can't remember exactly but there was a whole series of event to target him and his family. I think he agreed to go to prison to protect his cousin iirc
[06:18:03] <StargazerJ> Things like his business being targetted to fail etc
[06:18:19] <Durzan20> well im not in favor of state murder, but im also not really in favor of giving white nationalist monsters in prison soapboxes
[06:18:26] <StargazerJ> Like I say I can't be sure but the interview rang true
[06:19:12] <StargazerJ> I believe that the solution is always more discussion not trying to shut someone up
[06:19:58] <Durzan20> theoretically, yes. but the internet has changed things so that you can avoid that if you want
[06:21:29] <Parttimechampion> And one of those perfect songs for late at night. :)
[06:21:29] <grismunk#0565> Especially if you take away peoples' soapboxes.
[06:21:51] <Durzan20> these white nationalists think refugees are a problem now.. wonder what they will think when the oceans have risen 60 feet in spite of their willful ignorance.. and we have billions of refugees
[06:22:09] <grismunk#0565> Thanks for this, Atomos
[06:22:34] <StargazerJ> I'm not a fan of the word refugees. I prefer to use people
[06:23:41] <Durzan20> well, the international laws governing the treatment of refugees probably do care about the distinction :)
[06:23:50] <Durzan20> random people, you can let die on walls of razor wire
[06:23:57] <Durzan20> refugees.. not supposed to do that
[06:24:06] <StargazerJ> I wonder how differently people would feel if the shoe was on the other foot.
[06:26:09] <StargazerJ> I thought it was the Cure:)
[06:26:44] <grismunk#0565> New-ish
[06:26:53] <StargazerJ> I'd not heard it thx
[06:27:21] <grismunk#0565> I was still in uniform when it came out so that's at least...that long ago
[06:28:38] <grismunk#0565> Catalogue going almost 40 years...new is relative.
[06:28:39] <StargazerJ> Oh stop it, I cring sometimes when the DJ says, "And that was a golden oldie from..."
[06:29:59] <grismunk#0565> Hey you're welcome, and thanks for the college money and the new knee,
[06:30:09] <StargazerJ> Firely? I missed that
[06:30:25] <Durzan20> congrats on the new knee
[06:31:28] <grismunk#0565> Thanks! Thinking of having the old one bronzed
[06:32:51] <grismunk#0565> Now I have to listen to eye in the sky when this is done
[06:33:44] <Jungsutee> HI Ato! sorry to be late
[06:34:25] <Jungsutee> actually, i don't know. you continent types keep changing the time
[06:36:55] <grismunk#0565> Blame the railroads...and the farmers.
[06:37:22] <Jungsutee> lol
[06:40:38] <Jungsutee> <--- dons old black leather jacket and sunglasses
[06:41:27] <Jungsutee> lol
[06:41:45] <Jungsutee> I forgot the bangles
[06:48:41] <Parttimechampion> Ato... this show only gets better for the current time. :)
[06:50:38] <grismunk#0565> *singing along*
[06:52:45] <Parttimechampion> Like a spider monkey!
[06:55:20] <grismunk#0565> Don't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby!
[06:57:35] <Jungsutee> TUNE
[07:02:05] <Parttimechampion> Two dollars...
[07:02:07] <StargazerJ> Was that from Better of Dead?
[07:02:47] <StargazerJ> Unless I'm mistaken that film made John Cussack
[07:03:15] <StargazerJ> Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way, turn
[07:03:25] <grismunk#0565> I liked One Crazy Summer myself.
[07:03:46] <StargazerJ> At least it's the first I saw of him and thought he would be huge
[07:04:37] <grismunk#0565> Better Off Dead also gave us Dan Schneider, so I guess we're batting 500 off that one.
[07:04:46] <StargazerJ> Which was that? Not sure I've seen it
[07:05:24] <StargazerJ> This whole hill is pure snow lol
[07:06:15] <grismunk#0565> Both films were directed by Savage Steve Holland who went on to make a series called Beans Baxter
[07:06:33] <StargazerJ> I must look out for that
[07:06:55] <StargazerJ> I watched better of dead so many times
[07:07:52] <grismunk#0565> Whose main villain, Mr Sue, went on to play Red on that 70s Show
[07:08:04] <StargazerJ> Though I think the original Police Academy was the record. I could recite the whole film at one time lol
[07:08:33] <StargazerJ> Even got my cousin to test me on dialoge
[07:09:37] <grismunk#0565> So I win at six degrees of "I'm oollld (sob)"
[07:10:00] <Durzan20> i could recite most of wrath of khan, airplane!, the naked gun
[07:10:07] <StargazerJ> Gross Point Blank was awsome too
[07:10:26] <StargazerJ> He tasks me he does
[07:10:37] <StargazerJ> great film
[07:10:45] <grismunk#0565> Soooo Atomos...can I have my iPod back when you're done with it?
[07:11:28] <StargazerJ> Was it Airplane where the bloke ninja'ed all the pamphlet people?
[07:11:35] <grismunk#0565> It's like you swiped that off my Steampunk playlist.
[07:12:07] <Durzan20> now im blurry on it but it was either airplane or airplane 2
[07:12:43] <Parttimechampion> ...and the remote control and a Switch, which I don't have, but I need!
[07:13:12] <grismunk#0565> I remember it was Robert Stack...the guy beating the pamphley people
[07:13:25] <StargazerJ> loved that
[07:13:29] <Durzan20> yeah its the first one
[07:13:31] <grismunk#0565> So Airplane I think
[07:13:47] <StargazerJ> Like you say they kind of merge over time
[07:15:47] <grismunk#0565> Okay,,,very much late...g'night folks!
[07:15:59] <StargazerJ> nn Grismunk
[07:16:08] <grismunk#0565> Thanks Atomos for another great show
[07:16:36] <StargazerJ> I've given up on bed again, the suns up sigh lol
[07:16:54] <StargazerJ> Damn you Ato lol
[07:17:30] <Durzan20> i generally find that when the sun rises, its time to retire to the coffin
[07:17:56] <StargazerJ> Actually this around the time I usually sleep if I'm honest
[07:18:07] <StargazerJ> or in couple of hours
[07:18:23] <StargazerJ> I think I need to live on a planet with a 36 hour day
[07:18:28] <Parttimechampion> Dracula's greatest trick was fooling everyone by making movies in which the sun destroys him.
[07:19:04] <StargazerJ> Well I love garlic bread and I had a reflection last time I checked
[07:19:13] <Durzan20> i used to do that when i was young.. stay up 30-36 hours, sleep 20
[07:19:35] <Durzan20> but now i just prefer avoiding the daystar when possible. its hot out there, and there are people around
[07:19:36] <Jungsutee> G'nite all!
[07:19:40] <Jungsutee> Thanks Ato!
[07:19:41] <StargazerJ> The most I normally sleep is 5. Got by on 3 most of my life
[07:20:00] <Parttimechampion> Thanks for the show, Ato! :)
[07:20:02] <StargazerJ> nn Jungsutee
[07:20:09] <Parttimechampion> So, sleep well when you do, everyone. Bye!
[07:20:24] <Durzan20> night all
[07:20:43] <StargazerJ> nn PTC/Durzan
[07:21:03] <StargazerJ> A pleasure as always Ato