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[04:43:00] <vitria> Salutations
[04:45:15] <vitria> Je viens de me rendre compte après des problèmes de script que pour une raison inconnue anacron n'est plus installé sur mon Yunohost. Es-ce qu'il y a une config particulière à appliquer ou es-ce qu'un simple 'apt install anacron' suffira ?
[05:51:28] <irc> <Pierre0412> salut
[07:07:06] <rouky> hello tout le monde ! Ca se passe bien le camp ? Y'a un programme défini ? Je pensais ptet passer demain matin, si vous avez rien de déjà de prévu !
[07:15:43] <irc> <Aksel[m]> I would like to know how many yunohost installations are out there. Are there any statistics?
[07:24:56] <irc> <noorul[m]> Aksel there shouldn't be statistic for remote installation.
[07:24:57] <irc> <noorul[m]> Download may be
[07:50:16] <chema> But as package popularity program in Debian, we could create a list of yunohost volunteer installation... It's a very different point of view, but could give some statistics.
[08:02:19] <irc> <jacques-yves> je ne peux pas installer un certificat ssl
[08:14:23] <irc> <taziden> jacques-yves: bonjour, comment essaies-tu de le faire ?
[08:14:31] <irc> <taziden> Est-ce qu'il y a un message d'erreur ?
[08:14:54] <irc> <taziden> est-ce que le domaine pour lequel tu essaies de générer le certificat pointe bien vers l'IP publique de ton installation yunohost ?
[08:36:45] <irc> <Aleks_> Aksel[m]: we estimate about 3000 servers
[08:38:33] <irc> <Aleks_> rouky : oueouep tu peux completement passer nous voir o/
[08:38:45] <irc> <Aleks_> y'a pas specialement de programme, on travaille un peu sur les sujets qui nous viennent
[08:39:13] <irc> <Aleks_> mercredi y'aura un peu + de people le soir car c'est la soirée hebdomadaire du fuz et y'a une sorte d'event un peu plus grand public pour présenter le projet
[09:32:35] <rouky> Aleks_ cool, vous arriverez à quelle heure demain matin ? Je serai pas là le reste de la semaine, dommage pour mercredi soir !
[09:33:00] <irc> <Aleks_> rouky : vers ~10h30 en gros
[10:03:11] <rouky> Top, à demain 😄
[10:04:05] <irc> <Aleks_> cool !
[11:35:36] <gmar> Pareil je viens demain aussi, en espérant pouvoir contribuer 😉
[11:36:02] <irc> <Aleks_> \o/
[11:54:34] <irc> <Aksel[m]> Aleks_: cool! and hopefully growing! :-)
[11:54:35] <irc> <Aksel[m]> the more I use yunohost, the more I love it!
[11:54:35] <irc> <Aksel[m]> Sometimes, I would like t have a faster support/update, but hey yunohost is free and supported by volunteers, who do this in their spare time!!
[11:55:08] <irc> <Aleks_> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[12:28:15] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> bonjour tout le monde
[12:29:01] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> pour information il semblerait que la page ip6.yunohost.org ne soit pas disponible
[12:29:32] <irc> <noorul[m]> Aksel just like we start loving ynh, we should start learning more about it by solving things.
[12:29:33] <irc> <noorul[m]> When we taking things and solve my ourselves,this makes us an 'expert' rather getting quick support
[12:31:33] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> j'ai aussi un problème de routage sur le domaine ynh.fr que je n'arrive pas a comprendre et j'aurais besoin d'autre / i also have a rooting problem on the domaine ynh.fr that i can't understand and i will need some help
[12:32:22] <irc> <jkarlson:matrix.org> are you sure it's routing and not DNS?
[12:32:35] <irc> <jkarlson:matrix.org> is your host possibly behind and NAT?
[12:32:45] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> actualy yes it's a dns problem but kind of very strange ...
[12:33:15] <irc> <jkarlson:matrix.org> how strange?
[12:33:36] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> if i make a ns lookup on my domaine i recive the correct ip address if i make a ping frome the same machine i recive an other ip address
[12:34:35] <irc> <jkarlson:matrix.org> someone may do some caching
[12:35:15] <irc> <jkarlson:matrix.org> hmm same machine?, like absolutely the same OS, container or whatever?
[12:36:37] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> on domaine vkh0.ynh.fr i recive ip address 5.254.145.98 witch is not the good one and on nslookup i recive 5.254.129.73 witch is the good one and yes same machine (no vm) et same dns server (runing win 10) and same cli windows
[12:36:45] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> i try a flush dns but dit not work
[12:36:50] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> looks very strange
[12:37:16] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> or i m blondy and i forget somthing :p
[12:39:36] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> and when i make port test on yunohost site i do not have the same ruslut with domain name and ip address hum any idea ?
[12:40:52] <irc> <Aksel[m]> noorul: you are right! :-)
[12:40:53] <irc> <Aksel[m]> it is better to learn and solve things by ourselfs! That is one of the things to do, when decentralize and degoogle!
[12:44:59] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> by ourselfs yes but im alredy on this problem for more then 1 month all start with modification made by my isp that make my public fixe ip unusabel from lan
[12:45:30] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> so i allredy test several VPN solution i found 1 who looks to work but still have some strange reactions
[13:06:26] <irc> <Hexafox[I]> Is nextcloud really slow for anyone else?
[13:06:44] <irc> <Hexafox[I]> I was told the yunohost version doesn't have something enabled for php that speeds it up
[13:08:15] <irc> <Bram> do you have more details?
[13:08:33] <irc> <Bram> rohe: ça marche ici, tu es sûrement sur un réseau pas en ipv6 (ça ne répond qu'en ipv6)
[13:09:03] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> haha ok alors :)
[13:10:06] <irc> <Hexafox[I]> Bram, I think it was related to this https://www.php.net/manual/en/intro.opcache.php
[13:10:24] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> > <@yunohost:matrix.org> [irc] Bram: rohe: ça marche ici, tu es sûrement sur un réseau pas en ipv6 (ça ne répond qu'en ipv6)

ok alors si non pour le reste je me prend tjs la tete et j'en perd mon latin mdr
[13:11:06] <irc> <Bram> Hexafox[I]: we are using php 7.x, it is also available here?
[13:11:11] <irc> <Bram> the doc doesn't say that
[13:11:20] <irc> <Bram> those latest php versions should be better
[13:11:35] <irc> <Hexafox[I]> Not sure, I don't know a whole lot about php but the webui for nextcloud does seem slow on a raspberry pi 3
[13:11:55] <irc> <Bram> ah, that's probably link to the hardware
[13:12:02] <irc> <Bram> also nextcloud is very heavy on IO iirc
[13:12:13] <irc> <Bram> so that probably affects it too
[13:12:54] <irc> <Bram> it's always hard to tell the exact reason, if you can, doing some profiling could identify the root reason
[13:13:22] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> a-t-on un gourou du réseau en ligne ? lol
[13:15:11] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> j'avoue ne plus savoir à quel saint me vouer lol
[13:15:36] <irc> <Hexafox[I]> Bram, I'll have a test this weekend
[13:16:26] <irc> <Hexafox[I]> yunohost is insanely good. I was messing around with docker compose files for way too long
[13:16:40] <irc> <Hexafox[I]> Looked at sandstorm but everything was out of date
[13:19:04] <irc> <rohe:matrix.org> si quelqu'un est volontaire pour un peu de casse tete et pour m'aider à trouver une solution suis preneur lol j'avoue que la j'arrive au bout de mes idées lol
[20:07:38] <irc> <aslmx> hey there :) ... i have a problem with HTTP_UPLOAD on Yunohost+Metronome... Metronome is listening on 5290, DNS is correctly setup, Firewall is also setup... i can see SYNs reaching the server when sending a picture from Conversations... but i can't see anything in metronome logs ... any suggestion?
[20:17:52] <irc> <Aleks_> file upload with XMPP is not really supported in yunohost :/ .... looking for people to correctly fix/implement it
[20:18:28] <irc> <Aleks_> https://github.com/YunoHost/issues/issues/1278
[20:22:38] <irc> <aslmx> ... yeah it somehow works some how not... so i have several accounts on several xmpp servers running prosody usually... one can send file transfer to the yunohost account, my server at home cant send to yunohost :(
[20:27:01] <irc> <aslmx> @Aleks_: i never manually setup metronome, but Prosody, which metronme is a fork of... Why is even upload.domain.tld used for upload? My prosody at home runs fine when the HTTP UPLOAD componenten is registered on the main DOmain... as it runs under a different port there is no conflict (at least i don't see one)... so certificate for XMPP (port 5222) can be reused for HTTP Upload (http on Port 5281)
[20:32:53] <chema> Aslmx try httpupload external
[20:33:06] <chema> I had the same issue time ago...
[20:33:17] <irc> <aslmx> okay, is there some documentation how to do it?
[20:33:26] <chema> Give a sec
[20:33:32] <irc> <aslmx> sure
[20:35:24] <irc> <bjarkan> here... i'm chema... can you see me?
[20:35:36] <irc> <Aleks_> aslmx: i don't know ... i don't understand those things as I am not really an XMPP enthusiast, i just know that it doesnt work, so if people want it to work, somebody need to take care of it and make a PR ...
[20:35:42] <irc> <Aleks_> yup bjarkan
[20:35:47] <irc> <bjarkan> perfect
[20:36:10] <irc> <bjarkan> dont worry it looks harder that it is... english or spanish?
[20:36:26] <irc> <Aleks_> preferrably english ;)
[20:36:41] <irc> <aslmx> me? english please... only spanish i know is "una cerveza por favor" :)
[20:37:40] <irc> <aslmx> Yeah Aleks_ i'll see if i find the time to dig into it, but i'd need to first learn the yunohost packaging basics i think :-/
[20:37:44] <irc> <bjarkan> jajajajajajaja
[20:38:09] <irc> <bjarkan> dont worry i already write down a manual on how to do it... i'm just searching to give the link
[20:39:30] <irc> <bjarkan> https://translate.google.es/translate?um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&client=tw-ob&sl=es&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fmiradordemontepinar.net%2Fblog%2Fblog%2F2019%2F08%2F08%2Fyunohost-selfhosting-hecho-facil-parte-cinco-aplicaciones%2F
[20:39:36] <irc> <bjarkan> the metronome section
[20:40:15] <irc> <bjarkan> Despite Marco Cirillo, we are going to reach out to Metronome. It is just a very personalized version of prosody and adapted by Marco (heaven the boy), so let's do bad things ...
[20:40:16] <irc> <bjarkan> ex.php/s/3G7SRxdkkrbTxW3
[20:40:17] <irc> <bjarkan> ca, if you want to use it)
[20:40:20] <irc> <bjarkan> the nginx web server. now let's do it)
[20:40:21] <irc> <bjarkan> cebook, whatsapp etc does, with the difference that this server is ours and if they try to access a file more than 5 times, with wrong address, our wonderful fail2ban sends you to corner of thinking And hitting with addresses with a string of 30 letters, it's not that easy.
[20:40:23] <irc> <bjarkan> anda/metronome/blob/master/plugins/http_upload_external/resources/share.php You also have it here https://miradordemontepinar.net/ nextcloud / index.php / s / SJYfYnxj9epDqwt
[20:40:23] <irc> <bjarkan> et. We manage your respective key with let's encrypt (is to press a button) and then we will tune the configuration. We change the file /etc/nginx/conf.d/upload.yourdomain.net.d/upload.conf and replace it with this one.
[20:40:26] <irc> <bjarkan> restart nginx systemctl restart metronome
[20:40:28] <irc> <bjarkan> ploaded, send the link to the recipient. The same is done with voice files (voice clip) in conversations. It is much safer than it seems. And it is on your server, not on whatsapp or facebook that can give you other uses. Even if you want you can delete them by hand, they are saved in / tmp / store- *
[20:41:53] <irc> <bjarkan> basically... and resuming...
[20:41:56] <irc> <aslmx> okay, i need to copy paste this and read it tomorrow,
[20:42:10] <irc> <aslmx> Thanks a lot!
[20:42:14] <irc> <aslmx> need to leave now
[20:42:21] <irc> <aslmx> *saved*
[20:43:30] <irc> <Aleks_> bjarkan: in case you can post this explanation in the issue it would be nice i think
[20:43:32] <irc> <Aleks_> https://github.com/YunoHost/issues/issues/1278
[20:44:15] <irc> <bjarkan> at once sir...
[20:51:08] <irc> <Aleks_> cheers <3
[21:05:00] <irc> <bjarkan> done.... where's my award?
[21:08:59] <irc> <bjarkan> Aleks_ sorry but found no way to close the issue... i add the blog entry and a resume, even the config files to easy it but found no way to close the issue
[21:10:42] <irc> <bjarkan> in fact when you done it is very very easy... too easy i must say