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[10:36:21] <红夏redsumer> anyone here?
[10:36:31] <Ventiquu> i now here
[10:36:36] <红夏redsumer> hi
[10:36:39] <Ventiquu> hi
[10:36:49] <Ventiquu> what are u from&
[10:36:50] <Ventiquu> ?
[10:36:58] <红夏redsumer> China
[10:37:11] <Ventiquu> wow
[10:37:11] <Ventiquu> im from russia
[10:37:20] <红夏redsumer> wow
[10:37:31] <红夏redsumer> I have many classmate study russian
[10:37:55] <Ventiquu> hm
[10:38:02] <Ventiquu> this is weird
[10:38:24] <Ventiquu> it would be better study english
[10:38:44] <Ventiquu> how are things in China? interested
[10:38:51] <红夏redsumer> my school is foreign languageschool
[10:40:23] <Ventiquu> > my school is foreign languageschool
how many languages are taught in school?
[10:40:34] <红夏redsumer> 5
[10:40:39] <Ventiquu> which?
[10:41:16] <红夏redsumer> Japanese
[10:41:16] <红夏redsumer> German
[10:41:16] <红夏redsumer> Spanish
[10:41:16] <红夏redsumer> Russian
[10:41:16] <红夏redsumer> and English
[10:43:05] <Ventiquu> it would be better if arabic or french were taught instead of japanese
[10:44:06] <Ventiquu> un languages
[10:45:46] <红夏redsumer> And Japanese is easier for Chinese people to learn.
[10:45:46] <红夏redsumer> In the Chinese college entrance examination, Japanese is easier.
[10:45:59] <红夏redsumer> in fact Most Chinese students go to study in Japan.
[10:46:48] <红夏redsumer> Few people go to France and Arabia.
[10:48:10] <Ventiquu> > In the Chinese college entrance examination, Japanese is easier.
well, if students choose a language that they can easily pass exams with, rather than one that they can communicate with, then its very sad
[10:48:58] <Ventiquu> > in fact Most Chinese students go to study in Japan.
like, an easy way to leave the country? :)
[10:49:05] <红夏redsumer> you are right
[10:49:05] <红夏redsumer> yes
[10:49:25] <红夏redsumer> may be
[10:49:27] <Ventiquu> how to leave from communism - begin learn japanase language
[10:49:38] <Ventiquu> xd meme
[10:49:49] <红夏redsumer> no communism
[10:49:54] <红夏redsumer> is China
[10:50:00] <Ventiquu> really, no communism
[10:50:34] <Ventiquu> just because you have a certain freedom of the market does not mean that there is no communism in general
[10:50:48] <红夏redsumer> Communism is good.
[10:50:48] <红夏redsumer> but China not
[10:51:15] <Ventiquu> > Communism is good.
Yeah, especially when my family was dispossessed, xd
[10:52:26] <Ventiquu> in 1920+-
[10:53:03] <红夏redsumer> it call “bureaucratism”
[10:53:03] <红夏redsumer> Just like in your Gorbachev Khrushchev and Brezhnev era
[10:53:50] <Ventiquu> > it call “bureaucratism”
bureaucracy has nothing to do with dispossession
[10:54:17] <红夏redsumer> > in 1920+-
This was done to ensure the victory of the war.
[10:54:18] <红夏redsumer> If you were a farmer, those times were indeed tough.
[10:55:18] <Ventiquu> > If you were a farmer, those times were indeed tough.
what kind of farmer? xd, my grandfather owned a village
[10:56:28] <红夏redsumer> In that case, I don't want to talk to you about politics anymore.
[10:56:29] <红夏redsumer> Let's talk about something else.
[10:57:31] <Ventiquu> > > in 1920+-
> This was done to ensure the victory of the war.
what kind of victory? The Brest Peace was signed in 1918, and the dispossession of people began in 1922 +-
[10:58:03] <Ventiquu> > In that case, I don't want to talk to you about politics anymore.
this is not politics, this is history
[10:59:06] <红夏redsumer> History and politics always blend together.
[10:59:50] <红夏redsumer> >> This was done to ensure the victory of the war.
> what kind of victory? The Brest Peace was signed in 1918, and the dispossession of people began in 1922 +-
Russian Civil War
[11:00:30] <Ventiquu> > >> This was done to ensure the victory of the war.
> > what kind of victory? The Brest Peace was signed in 1918, and the dispossession of people began in 1922 +-
> Russian Civil War
was signed in 1917
[11:00:47] <红夏redsumer> the White Army
[11:01:09] <Ventiquu> ?
[11:02:00] <红夏redsumer> The war of Lenin and white army
[11:02:17] <Ventiquu> bro, civial war was finished in 1917
[11:02:40] <Ventiquu> why did the country start squeezing grain from the people in the 1930s
[11:02:45] <Ventiquu> this is fun
[11:03:18] <红夏redsumer> OK, OK. I don't want to talk about these anymore.
[11:04:23] <红夏redsumer> This was done by Trotsky and his comrades.
[11:04:29] <红夏redsumer> 超工业化
[11:04:38] <红夏redsumer> 以及布哈林
[11:04:46] <红夏redsumer> 严重阻碍了农民利益
[11:05:02] <Ventiquu> тротский вообще еврей, который после прихода сталина, начал устраивать такой пиздец, вместо поддержки, им была создана целая оппозиция
[11:06:15] <红夏redsumer> 并非所有事都是斯大林管
[11:06:28] <红夏redsumer> 以及斯大林这个人错误也很大
[11:07:02] <Ventiquu> сталин буквально управлял всем, а в чем он прав был - мне все равно. суть в том, что каждый кто побывал у власти в 1918-гг, после смерти ленина, желал управлять страной
[11:07:21] <Ventiquu> вместо того, чтоб провести выборы, и назначить того, кто достоин быть новым главой цк кпсс
[11:08:04] <Ventiquu> сталин боролся с оппозицией до 1950-х годов
[11:08:10] <红夏redsumer> 那为什么斯大林反对开除布哈林等人的党籍被反对了
[11:08:23] <红夏redsumer> 以及斯大林本人住宅也遭到搜查
[11:08:54] <Ventiquu> > 那为什么斯大林反对开除布哈林等人的党籍被反对了
потому что это была оппозиция для сталина
[11:09:03] <Ventiquu> сталин также тротского сверг
[11:09:16] <Ventiquu> Николай Бухарин, Алексей Рыков, Михаил Томский - все они под трибунал
[11:09:17] <红夏redsumer> 是的
> сталин боролся с оппозицией до 1950-х годов

[11:11:12] <红夏redsumer> 斯大林是有很多错误
[11:11:12] <红夏redsumer> 但是我们不能全部否定他的作为
[11:11:37] <红夏redsumer> 三分错误,七分功绩
[11:13:40] <红夏redsumer> 苏联毕竟是第一个社会主义国家,难免会犯错
[11:13:59] <红夏redsumer> 当然你要是反对社会主义当我没说
[11:14:25] <红夏redsumer> 我不能再和你聊这些了
[11:14:45] <红夏redsumer> 中国政府对于国外软件监视很严
[11:14:46] <Ventiquu> Okey, last question
[11:14:49] <红夏redsumer> 你懂吧
[11:15:01] <Ventiquu> What are u think about Chinese firewall?
[11:15:12] <红夏redsumer> shit
[11:15:22] <Ventiquu>
[11:16:22] <红夏redsumer> I do not support China government
[11:17:12] <红夏redsumer> They are no different from Hitler.
[11:17:12] <红夏redsumer> OK, I really can't say any more.
[11:17:12] <红夏redsumer> Otherwise, the police will arrest me.
[11:17:44] <Ventiquu> In xmpp - no
[11:17:45] <Ventiquu> I also hate government
[11:19:13] <红夏redsumer> > In xmpp - no
>
> I also hate government
But they will search my mobile phone.bro
[11:19:13] <红夏redsumer> My mobile phone was searched before.
[11:19:25] <红夏redsumer> > In xmpp - no
>
> I also hate government
yes
[11:19:30] <红夏redsumer> fuck Putin
[11:19:56] <红夏redsumer> fuck the war
[11:21:03] <Ventiquu> > My mobile phone was searched before.
Just boot to recovery mode and format data, If the police will
[11:22:40] <红夏redsumer> ok
[11:22:40] <红夏redsumer> thank you