Thursday, September 19, 2024
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Aria Network's and LW.Org main lounge - join, have a look, share your day.

See our sites:
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Aria Network - https://aria-net.org
LW.Org - https://lightwitch.org

This room is on Matrix (https://matrix.to/#/#lighthouse:aria-net.org) and XMPP

[00:00:54] <just_a_rock> Does it have functionality like IRC where someone can click a link to join a room with a nickname & leave later without saving an "account"?
What are they even called since SimpleX Chat accounts aren't exactly accounts?

[00:01:46] <stellarorion> 1. No, but you can create anonymous aliases for each invite link you join. So you can join even more anonymously and then dip
[00:02:43] <stellarorion> 2. I forgot... You can checkout their rich wiki. They cover all questions you may have
[00:03:31] <just_a_rock> Oh nice.
[00:03:57] <just_a_rock> But you can still access those from the same client? They're all the same profile but appear different to message recipients?
[00:04:11] <just_a_rock> That's awesome.
[00:04:46] <stellarorion> It's really anonymous as it gets... It's mainly done in a way that you're not adding people, but rather server connections. So nobody can know you're in that server/chatting with someone except for the server which doesn't collect IP's anyway
[00:05:12] <stellarorion> > But you can still access those from the same client? They're all the same profile but appear different to message recipients?
>
> That's awesome.
Yes
[00:05:32] <stellarorion> https://share.conversations.im/stellarorion/dNJAguGf6GfefgHs/GmxsnrQmQzCVJHlfelLuog.jpg
[00:05:36] <just_a_rock> Oh cool
[00:05:43] <stellarorion> You'll have that little mask icon next to the chat
[00:05:53] <stellarorion> That means you're using a burner profile
[00:06:00] <stellarorion> For that said chat
[00:06:46] <stellarorion> https://share.conversations.im/stellarorion/9BhSOqlEGH6yPLst/GBT3TjQ8SaSEwZKX96RG4w.jpg
[00:07:12] <stellarorion> You can of course add more profiles, but the burner ones you can't modify and are tied to your account
[00:07:47] <stellarorion> In a way that you can't choose a username for the alias or set a profile like. The username is always random
[00:08:10] <just_a_rock> I'll have to see how it compares to IRC too. It would really lower the barrier for entry for people to be able to click a link & message me instantly & then log out without having to make an account or install a client. Most friends I have are very afraid of technology & think it's magic, they never got the type of exposure to it that I did growing up, only the oversimplified UIs that magically did everything.
[00:08:56] <stellarorion> SimpleX unfortunately doesn't have that. You have to create an account or rather a database that stores all your chats
[00:09:07] <stellarorion> No way to access it with just a browser
[00:09:21] <just_a_rock> Aw
[00:09:25] <just_a_rock> Maybe in the future.
[00:10:29] <just_a_rock> Now I might need to host an IRC server, it would be a cool project. I'm not sure how to do it safely, but I'll figure it out.
[00:11:36] <stellarorion> I'm surprised it's still around. Seems very redundant these days
[00:12:15] <just_a_rock> It has its uses.
[00:12:26] <stellarorion> It's like a combination of a forum and chat LOL
[00:13:06] <just_a_rock> What I don't like about it is that the big networks are outdated. They're on IRC 2 or something & I'm pretty sure IRC 3 is out & supports modern features such as message history.
[00:13:43] <stellarorion> Yes, but who would use it for personal messaging? Oh yeah, I'm just gonna trust that it is really you and not some rando that picked your nickname
[00:14:16] <just_a_rock> Yeah, that's the issue with it.
[00:14:44] <just_a_rock> You have to claim your nickname first & stay connected at all times after that so no one else can steal it.
[00:15:12] <stellarorion> Might as well use email at that point LMAO
[00:15:54] <just_a_rock> But it's so simple & the barrier to entry is so low for the same reason. It might be less scary to people that have only ever used an iPad or McDonald's kiosk.
[00:16:15] <just_a_rock> > <stellarorion> Might as well use email at that point LMAO

email my behated💔
[00:22:26] <deport> > What I don't like about it is that the big networks are outdated. They're on IRC 2 or something & I'm pretty sure IRC 3 is out & supports modern features such as message history.
ircv3 is in continual development. there are some things that work and some things that are just ideas, afaik.
[00:24:58] <just_a_rock> That must be what I'm thinking of. Thank you for correcting me.
[05:55:50] <fugata> Maranda[x], Maranda: XMPP users can't seem to download Matrix attachments in our bridged channel. e.g.
https://aria.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/sEOIzAELfDxrKumGaQaSYfGd
[05:59:15] <Maranda> https://aria.im/_matrix/media/v1/download/aria-net.org/FXIVMlhNSodYydimVDzaieVO
[06:02:15] <Maranda[x]> Works here