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<just_a_rock> You're trying to get __Matrix__ users to create a __Telegram__ account. You're trying to convince them of this to do something that is illegal, & would only be relatively safe to do encrypted.
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<Mr. Not Sure> just_a_rock, just for my curiosity what countries have banned Telegram except China, Thailand, Pakistan and Cuba?
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<just_a_rock> Dumbass
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<just_a_rock> I swear I sent that hours ago, I'm not calling you a dumbass😭
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<just_a_rock> I don't know why it just went now😭
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<just_a_rock> I have no idea what countries have banned Telegram.
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<just_a_rock> I'm just saying that buying & selling illegal drugs is something illegal, something you would want well hidden if you were to do it so you wouldn't get caught. Telegram is about the least hidden you could get, it's plaintext & chat logs are sold to advertising companies.
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<just_a_rock> > <@just_a_rock:aria-net.org> I don't know why it just went now😭
I guess I closed SchildiChat before it sent & it froze in the background or something & only went through when the next notification it up? I'm so sorry about that😭
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<Mr. Not Sure> The idea is not to hide. The idea is to encrypt. I have no problem with someone knowing that I've said something as long as they can't read what I've said.
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<just_a_rock> Yes, but encryption allows you to hide if you want to. They want to hide, they're just too dumb to.
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<just_a_rock> I feel the same way. I just don't want people looking at my private messages. If police get a warrant or something I can give them my key to decrypt some messages until they're done & I can reroll my keys.
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<Mr. Not Sure> There is 1 Telegram fork that I know, that use PGP for E2E encryption using openkeychain.
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<just_a_rock> As far as I know, PGP isn't that great, but it's better than nothing.
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<just_a_rock> Signal is the best, but it requires a phone number so I won't use it.
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<Mr. Not Sure> As long as you are not in possession of the private key, you should not talk about encryption in the first place.
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<just_a_rock> I mean I've heard PGP can be cracked.
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<Mr. Not Sure> Theoretically yes. With current computing power, this may take hundreds of thousands or years. But there is no really known case where it succeed. The only known cases where when they have stolen the private key breaking into phones.
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<just_a_rock> I looked up "crack pgp encryption" & the first result I got was a GitHub repository for a PGP cracking tool meant for CTFs, I guess there may be some other information that can help crack keys if you find it.
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<just_a_rock> I don't really know anything about PGP specifically. I don't know about the actual cryptography, I just try to watch for vulnerabilities being reported in whatever I'm using.
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<Mr. Not Sure> The problem is not that you don't know anything about certain topics, the problem is that you have opinions on these topics.
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<just_a_rock> You're weird.
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<royal> Everyone’s a bit weird sometimes, and sometimes a lot of the time